So, exactly how expressive are Yinglet ears? I’ve seen up, down, back, and out, but I don’t recall seeing a full forward or any amount of large rotation.
Trial and error, yinglets’ primary learning tool, works alright in a lot of cases.
Learning the difference between “flying” and “falling” is not one of them.
Even worse actually.
The first major war where more casualties were caused by combat rather than disease was the russo-japanese war in 1905.
In World War I, trench fever and malaria caused almost as much death in the trenches as machine guns, artillery and poison gas and on certain fronts the war was on hold for months because soldiers were too busy dying in disease to have time or energy enough to fight the enemy.
It really makes you appreciate modern medicine when you realize that pretty much the most common disease-related death humanity experienced until VERY recently, was shitting yourself to death.
Modern medicine and field medics can only do so much, a few of the guys in my platoon still got it in Afghanistan. Take your meds, and EMBRACE THE SUCK lol
Don’t underestimate the impact of just having Germ Theory as an accepted fact. Simply knowing how a disease spreads has had an incredible impact. Right up until the mid 1800s, disease was still this mysterious thing that might as well be a curse from the gods. We had vague ideas of how to avoid some of it, largely by trial and error — they knew how to vaccinate against smallpox by using cowpox, but nobody could figure out why it worked — but even up to the Civil War, people were trying to fight disease by using perfume and herbs to drive off the “bad air”.
For dysentery it’s a lot sadder actually. Oral rehydration therapy aka “drink salty water” was only invented in the 1960/70’s. So many people dead and it’s survivable with such a simple treatment. Germ Theory is not a magic wand that fixed everything.
Well Lopin might soon be getting more attached to Kassie then she would like. And don’t forget to open Lopis’s clams for him Kassie, he can’t do it himself with that bum tooth.
Shellteeth probably get in the way of that. Instead, they probably nip or entwine tails, or simply sleep together in a pile.
Comparing them to rats, pidgins or lizards seems to be a useful comparison in terms of biology. In terms of social structure, they tend to remind me of a meercat or social bird colony, and this comparison has been made in canon.
Huh, either the forum ate my comment or I commented on the wrong page… That moment when you realize that you’ve been following the comic for two years and just now noticed that yings have those super-long eyelash/antenna-looking-like things.
Stripped of his humanity, stripped of his sex (which by all indications he identified as), sleep deprivation, forced move, long meetings with arrogant people constantly asking annoying questions, friends in disarray. Not the best week indeed.
On the plus side, she’s now small-time royalty with one demonstrably loyal subject, has a fairly high and important position in her city government, and has allies in a local tribal governing body. And let us not forget the access to information she now has. Lastly, she knows without a doubt that she can count on her friends sticking with her through the worst horror she has been able to imagine.
Hey, Isher has already seen Kasse’s little ying-bod running around starkers, and they’ve shared the same sleeping mat while wearing bras and loincloths, http://www.valsalia.com/comic/prologue/25/ so she seems to be overreacting a bit to me.
Out with denial, in with the shame.
And so begins the kitchen’s first of many mysterious oyster shortages.
Aw, Kass appreciates Lopin, despite how much it pains him to admit it.
Woot! Isher got consoled by Kass! Though she doesn’t care about her looks. She cares about other people seeing what only her husband-fu Kass should only be allowed to see. Still, points for calling her pretty and a girl! Means Kass don’t see her as a monster.
Though I bet she may want thumbs on her hands too :3
Kass is a good leader bein kind to Lopin like that ^w^
I would dare to say that because of Kass’ choice of words “You’re a pretty girl” was just a simple compliment meant to argue against Isher’s initial anxiety. If Kass had any romantic feelings toward Isher, Kass would have said something to the effect of “You are a beautiful woman” and maybe throw in something else like “and you should not be ashamed of who you are”. Plus it was just a pat on the back. Not a hug or anything more than lip service. I’m sorry to say, the Isher Kass ship has sunk TT_TT
Oh I completely agree. But I have made this basis based off of Isher’s view. Even as a Yinglet she knows he still isn’t attracted to her, but still treats her like a kid sister (although a rather large one), and not as a possible love interest. Poor girl, even as the same gender as her preferred partner, she can’t catch a break.
…perhaps they need more “girl” time together, so Kass can see how feminine she is and capture his heart for the day he changes back.
Because deep down, Isher thinks Kass can do anything! EVEN become human again! She would be smart to grab his heart now, and have it for later :b
Source? Belief is hoping for rain. Faith is praying. True faith is bringingan umbrella when you pray because you know your prayers will bring the rain!
There is a long story behind what I summarized, but I do not remember it well enough to tell :b
You know, Kass could probably amass a small army of Yinglets based purely on oyster access. Then again, getting them out of the kitchen to DO anything would be a logistical and disciplinary nightmare.
At least Lopin’s going to get his oysters after all. Right? Val wouldn’t be cruel enough to raise his hopes only to crush them again, right?
They could button in the back like button fly jeans(but backwards). Yinglets do have those long arms that would work great for something like that.
Could also slide the main tube of cloth over his tail, and the pant legs would be like chaps he could tie up, with a braidable fly (for each leg slit leading to the leg hole of the body portion of the leg tube) for his “paunch” area. Holy hell that would be a pain to draw though.
Yeah, being a creator of alien/fantasy “critters” myself, I keep running into the issue of how to fit pants on characters with tails. Half the time, I just make their species go about in their natural fur or hide. Or have them wear something kimono-like. Heh… oversized t-shirt would work.
I totally agree. Pants that have any covering of the tail are a pain. If tge pants are to just let the tail through though, a hook and loop for the tail area is always a great way to go. That way they can engage the fabric together above the tail like a bra. (Wouldn’t work for T rex short arm types or overly round / inflexible body types though)
After some looking and a bit of research. It’s pretty likely those are hose http://tinyurl.com/ycrn5myl with a third leg. Slightly stretchy fabric that’s pretty common to that kind of tech level/society. His earlier pants were just three-legged pantaloons http://tinyurl.com/ycnyalwc. It takes a little custom cutting and some folks opt for a right at the tail-base design, but tail-inclusive pants are pretty easy if you think about chaps http://tinyurl.com/cqwwmp9 and simply toss on a third leg for the tail-covering variety.
Well, for my namesake character, I came up with the idea for a pair of cargo shorts that can be put on and taken off while standing. Separate front and rear panels, first fastened with a belt (connects the two halves together), then strapped around legs and tail. Of course, you could always use a “loincloth” type wrap. Main issue is having three limbs to deal with… just two limbs, you can slip one leg in at a time. Heh… chaps would probably work, the tail just using a separate piece to… ahem!… cover the middle “ground”.
You could always use Hose- separate legs, with the entire crotch area open. Each hose ties to a belt or the shirt. Then a flap or codpiece for the front, if necessary, and you can leave the back open.
Yea, you could. My main issue involves the fact most, if not all of my characters, happen to have claws, so trying to pull on the equivalent of “stockings” would be fraught with hazards.
Are the oysters in the kitchen cracked open already, or is Kass going to have to crack them open for Lopin himself, since Lopin is missing his shell tooth?
The proper way to motivate a yinglet is with oysters attached to a stick and wire, dangling from their heads. They will chase it for hours; all you need to do is steer!
I know it’s been said a lot by almost everybody, but I am just loving this comic. I never expected to get sucked into a web comic like this, but you managed to hook me in, you weird, bird-lookin’ bastard. Keep up the awesome work!
Wait-a-minute … is Kass going to have to open all the clams and oysters for Lopin?
He IS the only one of the two with a shell-tooth… Lopin could get the wrong idea if he sees that :3
Kass will prob tell Lop to turn around while he fills a plate with clam and oyster gooey-goodness :b
Romantical wrong ideas, swapping saliva with the boss lady by proxy of oyster shells :b
Renegade Kass would prob give Lopin a knife to open his own and say “Good Luck,” and wait for the damage. Prob good Renegade Kass doesn’t exist, or our cast would start droppin like flies O_o
Either that, or like a young, rambunctious anime kid. I don’t really have a solid voice for him in my head, tbh. I imagine Kass has a smoother alto voice, not unlike my protag from FE:Awakening lol
You know, I just got into this comic and as a trans woman it’s fascinating. The furry subculture was the first group to even suggest to me that it was okay to be trans, and TG stories always gave me hope.
But it’s a bit weird in retrospect, as Kass’ dysphoria is really rough to see, but on the other hand it was always kind of a fantasy of mine that someone would just smack me upside the head and make me a girl so I would stop dilly-dallying and making excuses.
Of course, in general, us trans people have feminized or masculinized brains (otherwise giving us cross sex hormones would probably drive us crazy like it does in cis people), and the question of whether Kass received brain mods as well as body mods is important as A) brain mods would reduce his dysphoria overall after the initial shock and B) in my opinion that would be a way bigger change to who he was as a person than any body mods could, which gets into the realm of “Is old Kass dead? What changes to the brain are required before you are no longer the same person?” questions.
I guess what I’m asking is what is the neurological status of the tiny rat bird in question?
Yep, that’s a lot of the questions that Kass is gonna have to figure out the answers for! Kass’ experience could be read as a transperson’s experience in a lot of ways, being a different gender than he’d prefer to be. Not that his/her situation is a solid comparison for many realistic situations, though : D
Seriously though, Kass’ current neurological status is still currently “AAAA WHAT THE HELL AM I WHAT DO I DO ABOUT THIS”
Yeah, as a trans woman I can confirm that Kass is experiencing a fictionalized version of gender dysphoria; to a comic degree, as anyone who hears their story can instantly and automatically “see” Kass’ plight (and likely sympathize).
For us, it sometimes takes great effort to get people to understand what gender dysphoria is like and how strongly it can motivate certain actions and/or feelings.
So, exactly how expressive are Yinglet ears? I’ve seen up, down, back, and out, but I don’t recall seeing a full forward or any amount of large rotation.
Very expressive, if you go by Val’s Flash animation: https://www.deviantart.com/art/Ask-the-Average-Yinglet-493420426
Unfortunately my phone can’t view flash animations.
They can also fly with them if they flap fast enough!
Or if flung off one of those balconies on the Teeth, at least for a short time.
Trial and error, yinglets’ primary learning tool, works alright in a lot of cases.
Learning the difference between “flying” and “falling” is not one of them.
Could you create an HTML 5 version of your flash thing so that people on iPhone could view it?
Especially with Flash dying the death of a thousand screams this year, never to return.
Dysentery? Wow, these guys really HAVE been through it all together.
Don’t discount it. More Union soldiers died of it in the Civil War than in combat: http://www.wtv-zone.com/civilwar/dysentery.html
Kass: Union soldier. Wisconsin 13th.
Until the fully mechanized wars of the early 20th century, most soldiers died from disease and infection than the battlefield.
Even worse actually.
The first major war where more casualties were caused by combat rather than disease was the russo-japanese war in 1905.
In World War I, trench fever and malaria caused almost as much death in the trenches as machine guns, artillery and poison gas and on certain fronts the war was on hold for months because soldiers were too busy dying in disease to have time or energy enough to fight the enemy.
It really makes you appreciate modern medicine when you realize that pretty much the most common disease-related death humanity experienced until VERY recently, was shitting yourself to death.
Modern medicine and field medics can only do so much, a few of the guys in my platoon still got it in Afghanistan. Take your meds, and EMBRACE THE SUCK lol
If they survived the illness it’s thanks to those meds you would not have had a century back.
Don’t underestimate the impact of just having Germ Theory as an accepted fact. Simply knowing how a disease spreads has had an incredible impact. Right up until the mid 1800s, disease was still this mysterious thing that might as well be a curse from the gods. We had vague ideas of how to avoid some of it, largely by trial and error — they knew how to vaccinate against smallpox by using cowpox, but nobody could figure out why it worked — but even up to the Civil War, people were trying to fight disease by using perfume and herbs to drive off the “bad air”.
For dysentery it’s a lot sadder actually. Oral rehydration therapy aka “drink salty water” was only invented in the 1960/70’s. So many people dead and it’s survivable with such a simple treatment. Germ Theory is not a magic wand that fixed everything.
Kind of a shitty thing if you ask me
Oregon Trail, now with Yinglets.
Disease is best fought with fire. Even the most sturdy of virons will atomize in a 600 C plasma torch plume.
You wouldnt shit me would you?
Happy Lopin best Lopin. Dude got rewarded for giving up those delicious clams! You go you fancy rat, show sopretty lady Kass your moves.
I can’t HANDLE THIS CUTE, HELP!
Well Lopin might soon be getting more attached to Kassie then she would like. And don’t forget to open Lopis’s clams for him Kassie, he can’t do it himself with that bum tooth.
Does that count as indirect kiss, opening clams for another yinglet?
Maybe even a direct kiss, they are still a young species.
Better question: do they kiss? Humans probably do and yinglets emulate them a lot, but there’s limits to that.
Shellteeth probably get in the way of that. Instead, they probably nip or entwine tails, or simply sleep together in a pile.
Comparing them to rats, pidgins or lizards seems to be a useful comparison in terms of biology. In terms of social structure, they tend to remind me of a meercat or social bird colony, and this comparison has been made in canon.
Yay finally uploads
Huh, either the forum ate my comment or I commented on the wrong page… That moment when you realize that you’ve been following the comic for two years and just now noticed that yings have those super-long eyelash/antenna-looking-like things.
Same here! They just kinda there, and I plum forgot they even exist.
Poor little emotional Lopin 😛
NEW PANEL! Made my day…
It’s good to see Kass try to be a bit nicer to Lopin; he really needs it.
Indeed, if Lopin is going to consider Kass his Matriarch, a better relation will help a lot, plus his week has also been rather terrible.
Well, Kass week also been less than amazing.
Stripped of his humanity, stripped of his sex (which by all indications he identified as), sleep deprivation, forced move, long meetings with arrogant people constantly asking annoying questions, friends in disarray. Not the best week indeed.
On the plus side, she’s now small-time royalty with one demonstrably loyal subject, has a fairly high and important position in her city government, and has allies in a local tribal governing body. And let us not forget the access to information she now has. Lastly, she knows without a doubt that she can count on her friends sticking with her through the worst horror she has been able to imagine.
Hey, Isher has already seen Kasse’s little ying-bod running around starkers, and they’ve shared the same sleeping mat while wearing bras and loincloths, http://www.valsalia.com/comic/prologue/25/ so she seems to be overreacting a bit to me.
She’s sensitive girl, logic doesn’t really help.
Out with denial, in with the shame.
And so begins the kitchen’s first of many mysterious oyster shortages.
Aw, Kass appreciates Lopin, despite how much it pains him to admit it.
Hey now, a skilled denialist can hold onto their denial in ADDITION to shame!
Yay new page!
did these guys escape through the oregon trail? :>)
The Ivenmoth Trail, but…yeah, totes.
Woot! Isher got consoled by Kass! Though she doesn’t care about her looks. She cares about other people seeing what only her husband-fu Kass should only be allowed to see. Still, points for calling her pretty and a girl! Means Kass don’t see her as a monster.
Though I bet she may want thumbs on her hands too :3
Kass is a good leader bein kind to Lopin like that ^w^
I would dare to say that because of Kass’ choice of words “You’re a pretty girl” was just a simple compliment meant to argue against Isher’s initial anxiety. If Kass had any romantic feelings toward Isher, Kass would have said something to the effect of “You are a beautiful woman” and maybe throw in something else like “and you should not be ashamed of who you are”. Plus it was just a pat on the back. Not a hug or anything more than lip service. I’m sorry to say, the Isher Kass ship has sunk TT_TT
Oh I completely agree. But I have made this basis based off of Isher’s view. Even as a Yinglet she knows he still isn’t attracted to her, but still treats her like a kid sister (although a rather large one), and not as a possible love interest. Poor girl, even as the same gender as her preferred partner, she can’t catch a break.
…perhaps they need more “girl” time together, so Kass can see how feminine she is and capture his heart for the day he changes back.
Because deep down, Isher thinks Kass can do anything! EVEN become human again! She would be smart to grab his heart now, and have it for later :b
Source? Belief is hoping for rain. Faith is praying. True faith is bringingan umbrella when you pray because you know your prayers will bring the rain!
There is a long story behind what I summarized, but I do not remember it well enough to tell :b
So…next up, Kass going all Cookie Monster on some oysters?
I still ship Kass and Isher!
Big lady and smol lady ftw!
Same! :3
Big girls need some love just as much as the smol girls!
You know, Kass could probably amass a small army of Yinglets based purely on oyster access. Then again, getting them out of the kitchen to DO anything would be a logistical and disciplinary nightmare.
At least Lopin’s going to get his oysters after all. Right? Val wouldn’t be cruel enough to raise his hopes only to crush them again, right?
Oysters bonding quality time incommiiiiiing!
Sharing hard drugs will bring anyone together!
I still want to know how the hell Lopin removes his pants! …Maybe his pants are a part of him?
They could button in the back like button fly jeans(but backwards). Yinglets do have those long arms that would work great for something like that.
Could also slide the main tube of cloth over his tail, and the pant legs would be like chaps he could tie up, with a braidable fly (for each leg slit leading to the leg hole of the body portion of the leg tube) for his “paunch” area. Holy hell that would be a pain to draw though.
Yeah, being a creator of alien/fantasy “critters” myself, I keep running into the issue of how to fit pants on characters with tails. Half the time, I just make their species go about in their natural fur or hide. Or have them wear something kimono-like. Heh… oversized t-shirt would work.
I totally agree. Pants that have any covering of the tail are a pain. If tge pants are to just let the tail through though, a hook and loop for the tail area is always a great way to go. That way they can engage the fabric together above the tail like a bra. (Wouldn’t work for T rex short arm types or overly round / inflexible body types though)
After some looking and a bit of research. It’s pretty likely those are hose http://tinyurl.com/ycrn5myl with a third leg. Slightly stretchy fabric that’s pretty common to that kind of tech level/society. His earlier pants were just three-legged pantaloons http://tinyurl.com/ycnyalwc. It takes a little custom cutting and some folks opt for a right at the tail-base design, but tail-inclusive pants are pretty easy if you think about chaps http://tinyurl.com/cqwwmp9 and simply toss on a third leg for the tail-covering variety.
Well, for my namesake character, I came up with the idea for a pair of cargo shorts that can be put on and taken off while standing. Separate front and rear panels, first fastened with a belt (connects the two halves together), then strapped around legs and tail. Of course, you could always use a “loincloth” type wrap. Main issue is having three limbs to deal with… just two limbs, you can slip one leg in at a time. Heh… chaps would probably work, the tail just using a separate piece to… ahem!… cover the middle “ground”.
Link? Do you draw? I’m curious now! :3
Sorry, don’t have a link, nor do I draw. I do have artwork (done by others), but none got far enough to include pants. So I actually have links to artwork, but not to any artwork of characters wearing pants. Due to your interest, however:
Roose (though it doesn’t show his nether regions)… http://s247.photobucket.com/user/RooseHurro/media/Roose2.jpg.html
Deen (he doesn’t like pants, anyway)… http://s247.photobucket.com/user/RooseHurro/media/DisneyInspiredDeen_Sketch.png.html
You could always use Hose- separate legs, with the entire crotch area open. Each hose ties to a belt or the shirt. Then a flap or codpiece for the front, if necessary, and you can leave the back open.
Yea, you could. My main issue involves the fact most, if not all of my characters, happen to have claws, so trying to pull on the equivalent of “stockings” would be fraught with hazards.
Two pages in one month!? Truly we are blessed.
I don’t know if it will ever happen but I so strongly want Isher and mortal man Kassen to get together.
well then I am now having a much better day now that you have posted this
Binged the whole comic in one sitting. Now I’ll be in every week to check for more ^^ thanks for making something so enthralling!
I ship it
Are the oysters in the kitchen cracked open already, or is Kass going to have to crack them open for Lopin himself, since Lopin is missing his shell tooth?
The proper way to motivate a yinglet is with oysters attached to a stick and wire, dangling from their heads. They will chase it for hours; all you need to do is steer!
I know it’s been said a lot by almost everybody, but I am just loving this comic. I never expected to get sucked into a web comic like this, but you managed to hook me in, you weird, bird-lookin’ bastard. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks and Praise from his Matriarch and oysters at the same time. Lopin must be in Yinglet heaven.
At least everyone is feeling better now
Wait-a-minute … is Kass going to have to open all the clams and oysters for Lopin?
He IS the only one of the two with a shell-tooth… Lopin could get the wrong idea if he sees that :3
Kass will prob tell Lop to turn around while he fills a plate with clam and oyster gooey-goodness :b
Romantical wrong ideas, swapping saliva with the boss lady by proxy of oyster shells :b
Renegade Kass would prob give Lopin a knife to open his own and say “Good Luck,” and wait for the damage. Prob good Renegade Kass doesn’t exist, or our cast would start droppin like flies O_o
Out of curiosity do you have a voice for Lopin? What would he sound like? I keep using Mort’s voice.
I imagine it sounds vaguely like Mr. Poopy Butthole mixed with that husky puppy trying to howl and just squeaking instead. Like an airy soprano.
Either that, or like a young, rambunctious anime kid. I don’t really have a solid voice for him in my head, tbh. I imagine Kass has a smoother alto voice, not unlike my protag from FE:Awakening lol
Is it me or has Kass’s shelltooth looks shorter?
You know, I just got into this comic and as a trans woman it’s fascinating. The furry subculture was the first group to even suggest to me that it was okay to be trans, and TG stories always gave me hope.
But it’s a bit weird in retrospect, as Kass’ dysphoria is really rough to see, but on the other hand it was always kind of a fantasy of mine that someone would just smack me upside the head and make me a girl so I would stop dilly-dallying and making excuses.
Of course, in general, us trans people have feminized or masculinized brains (otherwise giving us cross sex hormones would probably drive us crazy like it does in cis people), and the question of whether Kass received brain mods as well as body mods is important as A) brain mods would reduce his dysphoria overall after the initial shock and B) in my opinion that would be a way bigger change to who he was as a person than any body mods could, which gets into the realm of “Is old Kass dead? What changes to the brain are required before you are no longer the same person?” questions.
I guess what I’m asking is what is the neurological status of the tiny rat bird in question?
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I get up to weird stuff when I have bronchitis.
Yep, that’s a lot of the questions that Kass is gonna have to figure out the answers for! Kass’ experience could be read as a transperson’s experience in a lot of ways, being a different gender than he’d prefer to be. Not that his/her situation is a solid comparison for many realistic situations, though : D
Seriously though, Kass’ current neurological status is still currently “AAAA WHAT THE HELL AM I WHAT DO I DO ABOUT THIS”
You know, your use of his/her begs a simpler question. What are Kass’ preferred pronouns at this point?
Yeah, as a trans woman I can confirm that Kass is experiencing a fictionalized version of gender dysphoria; to a comic degree, as anyone who hears their story can instantly and automatically “see” Kass’ plight (and likely sympathize).
For us, it sometimes takes great effort to get people to understand what gender dysphoria is like and how strongly it can motivate certain actions and/or feelings.