Something no one else has mentioned: the nurse saying “Could you take a look at this.” is NOT asking a question. I’m reading it as one of those ‘I am phrasing this as a query due to our relative positions but you must not answer no.’ requests.
This is immediately after administering the anaesthetic, and the surgeon looking over the nurse’s shoulder doesn’t seem in a position to be looking at Elim’s abdomen. For these reasons, I’m inclined to go for an immediate and life-threatening anyphalactic (allergic)/toxic reaction to the anaesthetic…Hardly an unknown problem, and one which could quite easily lead to ‘get cutting now, there’s not going to be a positive effect from waiting for anaesthesia and we need to take care of the injury, then take steps to minimize the anaphylaxis.’
Thank you so much for being the moron who thinks everyone else is too stupid to figure any of this out on our own. The insult to all of our intelligence is profound while the revelation of your arrogance, ignorance and stupidity are profound.
Thank you so much for proving you’re an asshole. How about this, Pononimous… have you ever heard the saying, “If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all”? Put that into practice.
Should be “is profound,” since “revelation” is singular. Also, using the word “profound” twice in one sentence doesn’t make you sound smart. Once is sometimes necessary- twice makes it sound like you’re running out of words.
I’m leaning old war wounds and ya remember that halfwit doctor he ordered them not to take him to? He’s probably the one that treated him the first time and maybe didn’t do a very good job? Whatever “this” is, it’s life threatening or at least will complicate the surgery and I agree with the character of the doctor on if it wasn’t something that couldn’t be described, it WOULD be called out by the doctor.
Combining the mouth guard with the anesthetic, I’m gonna guess it’s yinglet poison and they need to cut out quite a bit of, well, everything around it to salvage him. And they’re not sure it’ll work.
Fitting him with the mouthguard means they are starting before the anesthetic has taken full effect and they are expecting muscle reactions as they start to cut. And yeah, they are probably not expecting him to pull through. What the complication is? Who knows other than the fantastic author. As so many point out, there are a load of possibilities from the prior injuries he had before, issues with what might have been on that blade, exactly where it did penetrate and what organs are now involved, combinations of all the above. Though it is probably not a Yinglet Tattoo. Nope, not that.
Any anaesthetic they are likely to have in a low tech-setting (most likely some sort of opioid) may dull the pain or render a man unconscious, but it will not stop the muscle reactions. While reliable gas anaesthesia is 19th-century technology neuromuscular-blocking drugs are post-WWII. So they expect muscle reactions even when the drug has taken full effect.
It isn’t he’s turning into a yinglet, it isn’t a allergic reaction.
Here’s what we know. The nurse and doctor saw something they really didn’t like, but not something unusual. The reaction was a very simple this complicates things, but also makes things very dire. So anything seriously out of the blue, like he’s changing genders or races is out. Even he isn’t the expected gender is out, neither are surprised, they are at most a alarmed, but once again it looks like they’re reacting to something that is not unusual with this sort of patient.
It’s not a reaction because the last thing you want to do with an allergic reaction is rush through things, they’d need to administer some sort of counter agent (if such a thing exists in their world). Doing surgery on someone having a reaction is a great way to lose a patient.
People are grasping for far too wild theories. Given that it was something that didn’t shock them and their response was to press ahead faster, we can assume with a great amount of certainty that they saw the injury is way worse than they initially thought.
The doctor and nurse do see something unusual, in fact, out of their experience or easy imagination. While likely very threatening, it is, in major degree, non-medical. The nurse is of at least moderate competence, and knows the doc will cut her a new one for using “this”. Yet she does, and the doctor, when he sees, immediately cuts off abuse. [saying he approves may be a stretch, but he makes no attempt to suggest better language and it would hardly take any time to say something like “poison”.] So this is something that just should not be in an operating room.
>Nurse saying “come look at this” right before surgery
Bad
>Head surgeon immediately pausing half way through a sentence after seeing “it”
Worse
>only word immediately after seeing it is “oh”
F**K
Last doctor sowed him up and left a tool in there. Seems to be poor Elims luck right now.
I feel Ran will pop in and have a few ideas for THE doc-maybe.
well, generally the form the meme Sgt. Fuck was trying to invoke takes is:
step 1: Clip/gif/picture of a character blacking out (As Elim is above), whichever is appropriate to the medium of your meme.
Step 2: silent beat/black panel, as appropriate.
Step 3: clip/gif/captioned still image of Ralof from The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim speaking his first line of dialogue, implying that the character that blacked out back in step 1 has woken up as The Dragonborn(Player Character).
What they are seeing is probably rapid onset necrosis. As in, the wound is badly infected and tissue is dying off at a high rate. Alarming, probably fatal, but not unexpected. This stands to reason because it would require immediate surgery to prevent it spreading further. I don’t know the god(s) of this world, but if I were them, I’d start praying.
Hmm, the way its worded makes me think that even if he survives, he’ll no longer be able to be serve House Ivenmoth as a guard/bodyguard. There might have been some sort of toxin on the yinglet blade, and they’re probably speeding up surgery to cut out the part and hopefully prevent any toxin from entering the blood stream. Now, how much they’ll cut out waits to be seen.
Also, we are definitely getting a scene change after this.
It’s the fifth day, and none of the comments have replies from the author? That either means rl has prevented the author from conventions or any comments would spoil the next page. Or both.
Our author frequently does not reply at all, and such replies may come the same day, or months later. So any conclusions qualify as “maybe”. And that is likely best for us. Time spent making comments is time not spent drawing the strip.
In fact Val almost always leaves at least a couple of comments a day or two after the comic is published. Because he left no comments at all here, on Deviantart of Furaffinity I conclude that either something major happened in his life or he is frantically drawing the next page.
So, current list of theories
– yinglet poison
– yinglet funky magic stuff
– old doc’s incredibly shoddy work
– reaction to medication
– severe damage to major organ/s
Any others I’m missing? I’m honestly on team “shoddy work” because if doc is half as bad as he’s described, he could’ve done some really messed up stuff while “fixing” Elim.
The commentary, and fading to black really hits it. However, having a blank author commentary section(other than the coloring crediting) afterward is the real kicker.
Something no one else has mentioned: the nurse saying “Could you take a look at this.” is NOT asking a question. I’m reading it as one of those ‘I am phrasing this as a query due to our relative positions but you must not answer no.’ requests.
This is immediately after administering the anaesthetic, and the surgeon looking over the nurse’s shoulder doesn’t seem in a position to be looking at Elim’s abdomen. For these reasons, I’m inclined to go for an immediate and life-threatening anyphalactic (allergic)/toxic reaction to the anaesthetic…Hardly an unknown problem, and one which could quite easily lead to ‘get cutting now, there’s not going to be a positive effect from waiting for anaesthesia and we need to take care of the injury, then take steps to minimize the anaphylaxis.’
I think the doctor is just walking back to the operating table after putting the anesthetic away. But you are right, anaphylaxis a strong possibility.
Thank you so much for being the moron who thinks everyone else is too stupid to figure any of this out on our own. The insult to all of our intelligence is profound while the revelation of your arrogance, ignorance and stupidity are profound.
r/iamverysmart
Don’t listen to the guy above me. I appreciate your insight.
Speaking to Shunka, I mean, and referring to Pononimous.
Shut up, Pono. There are _plenty_ of people who could learn from this. All you did was show how much of an asshole you are.
Thank you so much for proving you’re an asshole. How about this, Pononimous… have you ever heard the saying, “If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all”? Put that into practice.
Should be “is profound,” since “revelation” is singular. Also, using the word “profound” twice in one sentence doesn’t make you sound smart. Once is sometimes necessary- twice makes it sound like you’re running out of words.
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I’m leaning old war wounds and ya remember that halfwit doctor he ordered them not to take him to? He’s probably the one that treated him the first time and maybe didn’t do a very good job? Whatever “this” is, it’s life threatening or at least will complicate the surgery and I agree with the character of the doctor on if it wasn’t something that couldn’t be described, it WOULD be called out by the doctor.
Combining the mouth guard with the anesthetic, I’m gonna guess it’s yinglet poison and they need to cut out quite a bit of, well, everything around it to salvage him. And they’re not sure it’ll work.
Looks more like it’s just that’s in or on a kidney, they either need to remove the whole organ or very carefully stitch it
Yeah, I’m going with that they’ve simply recognized the old gut wound, and that means they don’t know exactly what baseline they’re working from.
“Ow my gut, I’m not supposed to get shivs in it”
I’m voting for ‘Tattoo which proves he;s the royal heir who went missing 30 years ago”.
That last panel sounds pert-near final.
Did Elim DIE?! They said thank you for your service so did elim die?!
This is while he is blacking out (either from pain or from the anesthetic). However, they may expect him to die, now that they discovered “this”.
I don’t want Elim to die!
The worst part is, I bet there will be a scene change next update.
They placed him on his back pushing the stab further in? Gee thanks, Doc! Get well soon @ Elim!
Fitting him with the mouthguard means they are starting before the anesthetic has taken full effect and they are expecting muscle reactions as they start to cut. And yeah, they are probably not expecting him to pull through. What the complication is? Who knows other than the fantastic author. As so many point out, there are a load of possibilities from the prior injuries he had before, issues with what might have been on that blade, exactly where it did penetrate and what organs are now involved, combinations of all the above. Though it is probably not a Yinglet Tattoo. Nope, not that.
Any anaesthetic they are likely to have in a low tech-setting (most likely some sort of opioid) may dull the pain or render a man unconscious, but it will not stop the muscle reactions. While reliable gas anaesthesia is 19th-century technology neuromuscular-blocking drugs are post-WWII. So they expect muscle reactions even when the drug has taken full effect.
The fancy “L” on the jar suggests maybe Laudanum?
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It isn’t he’s turning into a yinglet, it isn’t a allergic reaction.
Here’s what we know. The nurse and doctor saw something they really didn’t like, but not something unusual. The reaction was a very simple this complicates things, but also makes things very dire. So anything seriously out of the blue, like he’s changing genders or races is out. Even he isn’t the expected gender is out, neither are surprised, they are at most a alarmed, but once again it looks like they’re reacting to something that is not unusual with this sort of patient.
It’s not a reaction because the last thing you want to do with an allergic reaction is rush through things, they’d need to administer some sort of counter agent (if such a thing exists in their world). Doing surgery on someone having a reaction is a great way to lose a patient.
People are grasping for far too wild theories. Given that it was something that didn’t shock them and their response was to press ahead faster, we can assume with a great amount of certainty that they saw the injury is way worse than they initially thought.
The doctor and nurse do see something unusual, in fact, out of their experience or easy imagination. While likely very threatening, it is, in major degree, non-medical. The nurse is of at least moderate competence, and knows the doc will cut her a new one for using “this”. Yet she does, and the doctor, when he sees, immediately cuts off abuse. [saying he approves may be a stretch, but he makes no attempt to suggest better language and it would hardly take any time to say something like “poison”.] So this is something that just should not be in an operating room.
Really, “this” could easily refer to whatever mess that doc who’s always high did to him after his first torso piercing.
>Nurse saying “come look at this” right before surgery
Bad
>Head surgeon immediately pausing half way through a sentence after seeing “it”
Worse
>only word immediately after seeing it is “oh”
F**K
After spending much of the recent pages establishing/implying the doctor’s professionalism and knowledge, “oh” has to be the scariest word.
Last doctor sowed him up and left a tool in there. Seems to be poor Elims luck right now.
I feel Ran will pop in and have a few ideas for THE doc-maybe.
Hey you, finally awake , you were trying to cross the border right? walked right into that imperial ambush. same as us and that thief over there.
Your comment has nothing to do with the webcomic. Please restrict yourself to relevant posts. They can ban you from posting, you know.
It’s a meme you dip
That did seem kind of meme. Lets try to be nice people. Ha!
I know, I’m not funny.
It’s the opening lines of Skyrim V: The Elder Scrolls and it’s still not relevant. And it’s not a meme, you dip.
well, generally the form the meme Sgt. Fuck was trying to invoke takes is:
step 1: Clip/gif/picture of a character blacking out (As Elim is above), whichever is appropriate to the medium of your meme.
Step 2: silent beat/black panel, as appropriate.
Step 3: clip/gif/captioned still image of Ralof from The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim speaking his first line of dialogue, implying that the character that blacked out back in step 1 has woken up as The Dragonborn(Player Character).
What they are seeing is probably rapid onset necrosis. As in, the wound is badly infected and tissue is dying off at a high rate. Alarming, probably fatal, but not unexpected. This stands to reason because it would require immediate surgery to prevent it spreading further. I don’t know the god(s) of this world, but if I were them, I’d start praying.
Oooh. That’s not a good sign.
Hmm, the way its worded makes me think that even if he survives, he’ll no longer be able to be serve House Ivenmoth as a guard/bodyguard. There might have been some sort of toxin on the yinglet blade, and they’re probably speeding up surgery to cut out the part and hopefully prevent any toxin from entering the blood stream. Now, how much they’ll cut out waits to be seen.
Also, we are definitely getting a scene change after this.
It’s the fifth day, and none of the comments have replies from the author? That either means rl has prevented the author from conventions or any comments would spoil the next page. Or both.
Our author frequently does not reply at all, and such replies may come the same day, or months later. So any conclusions qualify as “maybe”. And that is likely best for us. Time spent making comments is time not spent drawing the strip.
In fact Val almost always leaves at least a couple of comments a day or two after the comic is published. Because he left no comments at all here, on Deviantart of Furaffinity I conclude that either something major happened in his life or he is frantically drawing the next page.
Random theory: the shiv/’spear’ had some residue of “zhat zhing” from Brakka’s hands, possibly because he had been scratching it to, er, ‘analyse’ it.
This residue has now started a slow transformation into a Yinglet.
Wow… Nice… I have work today… thanks for this
So, current list of theories
– yinglet poison
– yinglet funky magic stuff
– old doc’s incredibly shoddy work
– reaction to medication
– severe damage to major organ/s
Any others I’m missing? I’m honestly on team “shoddy work” because if doc is half as bad as he’s described, he could’ve done some really messed up stuff while “fixing” Elim.
I’d suppose Pornographic Tatoos of Yinglets don’t count as a theory then..
Very good job, but you missed my own personal theory : Newly-discovered conjoined-twin, and soon to be major character, Emil!
My eyes tear up everytime I read the last panel. T_T
The commentary, and fading to black really hits it. However, having a blank author commentary section(other than the coloring crediting) afterward is the real kicker.