Kass is not ready to talk about that yet.
Out-of-Placers
A story of inconvenient changes
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Kass is not ready to talk about that yet.
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We were all having fun watching Kass tie himself in literal knots, then you had to go and make t weird. Way to go, Elim.
IT IS A RELEVANT QUESTION
JUST BROS MAKIN’ LOCKER ROOM TALK
Valsalian locker rooms must be the worst.
Dear God! What if he asks Isher to see if his is ‘normal’ now.
Or worse, Vizlet.
*hers
Kass’s gender identity may or may not be changed. Val hasn’t given official confirmation either way, and has used both pronouns for Kass after the change.
The pronoun her was for Isher in MajestNick’s post at the start of this little thread. Nothing to do with Kass.
He’d be too concerned with the fact that he has a vagoo to be concerned with whether or not it is normal. Besides, he’s already had ‘the talk’ with Vizlet. Involuntarily.
Give her time…
IT’S BRO’S BEING BRO’S MAN.
Kass is a little danger noodle.
Best back up, lest ye be wildly scratched
So long as there is no talk of bones.
Welcome to the wonderful world of slinkies Kass,
You will come to have a special relationship with stairs in time
The Yinglet Ouroboros is a yinglet checking out it’s own ass. It all makes sense now.
But if they twist around, they can be checking out their crotches!
Flexible enough to lick ANYWHERE…
… not to mention literally able to put their foot in their mouth, by the looks of it.
. . . can’t everyone?
Just kidding, I know most people aren’t as flexible as me. In fact, I can actually do the pose in panel four.
Also, I can, from personal experience, tell you that it *is* damned fun screwing with people using your flexibility. Their reaction when they’re talking to you and they finally notice that your feet are pointing backwards is hilarious.
Having that kind of flexibility is fun, but in other ways annoying. I’m mildly hyperflexive in my shoulders and hips, and now I’m developing arthritis in my right hip because of it.
On the other hand, it’s still fun to watch people’s reaction when I brush my hair with a comb held between my toes…
I was that way in my shoulders as a kid, practically double jointed. Guess what part of me constantly aches now and frequently pops painfully out of socket now that I’m in my 30s.
Glad to see Kasie is feeling better. I wonder if there ever will be a Yinglet yoga. And I’m betting she has not pissed yet, Judging by how freaked out about it she got.
Or she has and it was as awkward and uncomfortable as being catapulted unwillingly into having to pee with completely different plumbing would logically be.
Oh Kass has, but has looked away and done everything he can to touch as little as possible during the act.
As I would imagine almost any male who was forced to and doesn’t want to be a female would.
Hello Valsia! Cool comix I want to say. I’m from Ukraine, so sorry from my mistakes. I want to know, will you do the ending of your comix? Or end already exist? Generaly, I want to translate your comix.
Kass already gave Ran “fluid samples” a while ago.
Quite funny. Are Yinglet their version of “Noodle” animals like Weasels?
Possibly, though Baxxid make better, if much larger noodles!
He’s got a point about not being able to maintain that grumpiness forever.
All hail the Ouroboros Yinglet.
Woot! Yinglet Ouroboros! Soon the skies shall blacken and we will bring fire upon this world! Until then lets snag some lead cups from the markey and turn them gold! 😀
iv only just caught up with this page, and after reading the whole thing up to this point i can safely say…i now worship the glorious hilarity that is the yinglet. for one thing iv learned never to “piss” them off 😀
Well I tell ya man there’s gonna be like a million more yinglets produced over the course of my life so you’re all set!
Some could even be from kass…
we all just wanna see him get it on don’t we
And here we thought it was just one of those off panel things and all that they never mention. Just when Kassy was getting a handle on things another worry pops up. Way to go Elim. Kassy’s back to their normal paniy self.
Also. Lols for the next two weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tECTmCsUiio
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I was not expecting Elim to take things that way and I just noticed that yinglet belly buttons are prominent enough to appear through fur lol
4th panel makes me think of good old philosiraptor
Wait, why would they even have one? Don’t they hatch from eggs?
Animals born from eggs do get yolk sac scars instead of umbilical cord scars. That being said, the scar is usually miniscule and practically invisible.
I can only assume the eggs of yinglets are quite unlike those of birds and lizards.
Been kinda wondering that myself, though, I also alow for artistic license
I guess it is possible that the bellybutton is the last remnant of Kass being human, well except his/her mind when it is not being overloaded by yingletism
or since kass was once human and had one she has one now
A bellybutton is a scar. I’m guessing if Kass had other prominent scars they would have “migrated over” also.
A Yinglet game of Twister must be quite a sight.
I bet Yinglets would *love* Twister. They might not stick to the rules very long, but they’d probably all have a blast.
The level of smugness in that first panel is almost too much, lol. Also Val, I missed your stream again, do you have a schedule for those, or is it a whenever you can type thing? I would love to tune in next time!
No set schedule; I just tend to stream anytime I’m doing comic/Patreon work! If you +Watch my Picarto channel, you can get alerts whenever I start one up.
Must’ve been fun drawing out all those poses.
It is a very valid question, actually.
Maybe Yinglets don’t urinate? Their digestive systems could be super-efficient. And why is the friend the first to be curious about his/her pee?
Elim’s all curious about that Yinglet vag.
I believe the medical term for what Elim is requesting is Val’s new “hoo ha.”
Or perhaps Elim is curious as to the possible proclivities of fluid dynamics in regards to the mass of fur protecting the “area of unspeakable unmentionableness!”
D’you think Kass just has a cloaca?
Alternately, the Secret Compartment. the Anti-Sausage. the Yinglet Factory. She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. the Fern Gully.
In the real world, animals that lay eggs on land produce nitrogenous waste in the form of uric acid rather than urea. The low water solubility of uric acid means that it can build up harmlessly in eggs as a paste rather than producing a toxic liquid. One upshot of this for adult animals is that thy don’t pee, but instead expel the uric acid along with their other solid waste. Since the production of uric acid is metabolically costly, almost all mammals trade it for a greater cost in water loss by using urea as the main form of nitrogenous waste disposal. For comparison, water-breathing animals typically excrete ammonia through their gills, which is metabolically the least costly, but is much more toxic and requires a lot more water to get rid of.
Panel 5 looks like something that would go on some country’s flag or something. Very regal posing for a proper matriarch, I must say.
In a way, I respect Elim for asking the weird questions society has conditioned me not to. What? Stop looking at me like that! I said “in a way!”
Good on Kass for doing the right thing and abusing the new body’s flexibility, though. They are the scrawny-scrabbling hero we need. Side note to Val, when will Kass’s pronoun be addressed? I’m not saying a major character and plot moment should be railroaded for the sole purpose of removing grammatical strain from readers, but, y’know, just a hint?
That’s a tough subject! If you’re talking about Kass purely in the biological sense, definitely “she,” but Kass as an individual, and in Kass’ mind? Not so much.
I don’t think that gender identity can be handled in a “ease the strain on the readership’s English usage” timeframe. Also I just binged this and loved it very much and was reminded of T.O.K. which I miss very dearly so that is a good thing even if you don’t like it.
http://kalduras.comicgenesis.com/
Publicly, the change is insane to their sensibilities. They know absolutely nothing. It could wear off tomorrow, it could be unstable and leave him with less than a month to live but there is a reversion agent, it could be a were-yinglet deal where he’ll toggle between the forms with every full moon… So it is not ideal to kill off “Kassen the refugee” and murdering his identity would not be healthy mentally. So long as he exists on company files he is still around. Meanwhile she is a rare female yinglet acting as a unique diplomatic opportunity and a lost soprettylady who doesn’t pose a “kill it with fire”-level contamination risk to The Northern Enclaves. She is very very definitely not now nor ever was a male human, that would just be ridiculous and anyone who said otherwise would likely have to be detained and permanently quarantined lest they spread their deranged madness… The levels of potentially fatal intrigue and alien arcana are just too great to commit to anything other than “vague” as a gender identity.
Personally this was inflicted on him, so resistance is natural. He has demonstrated no interest in courting males nor yinglets. Aside from a party as a peer group under extreme circumstances he seems to have been leaning towards committed relationships. His time with the erotic dancers seems to have focused upon being smitten by an individual rather than “enjoying the show” even if that relationship was imaginary, and he hasn’t taken advantage of Isher who ought to have a human enough face and torso for someone interested in casual intimacy. And his attitude towards Elim suggests someone with a strong sense of loyalty to people he associates closely with and his respect for Lopin as an amateur merchant suggests that he tends to respect “the little people” so he is unlikely to just handwave-off one-night-flings… As a Yinglet… The lack of females makes their reproductive capacity very valuable, just avoiding the issue isn’t really plausible if she joins the enclave. They are already showing signs of inbreeding and just a single female added could dramatically increase their population. Abstinence, single partners, romantic dinners, anniversaries, raising the kids together, courting the girl of his dreams and winning her heart… these just don’t seem to be even remotely plausible in yinglet society, they just have a completely alien attitude towards the whole thing. And to make it worse, it is entirely possible for the mind to be at odds with itself. Just because that impressive yinglet telling her how pretty she is makes her vision fog over and her heart rise in her chest doesn’t mean that he is even slightly okay with the proposal and could send him huddling in a corner crying and throwing up for weeks. The genders, species, and family structures she currently faces all seem to be completely at odds with his own preferences, and there is no way to confirm if it is permanent. It just isn’t plausible for their gender identity to resolve quickly, or perhaps ever. Sometimes there is no win condition and you are left with a life of balancing conflicting elements as best as you can…
As for English usage, they/them/their as a singular is valid. People will dispute that but it has been in use for decades at least and over a much wider context than just gender identity issues so it doesn’t seem plausible that people could dispute the usage without being ignorant of what “living language” means or being really finicky about the difference between referring to someone directly and indirectly. “IT” is… it really ought to be valid. The distinction between people and objects has been applied within humanity for long enough that people really ought to have gained some idea of just how toxic the distinction is to civilisation and society. People are made out of ordinary mass, powered by ordinary energy, and perform ordinary(well there is an interesting habit living things have of wastefully concentrating energy) actions. Souls are an interesting concept, and I am as spiritual as anyone so am hoping to train mine up to handle anything the afterlife can throw at me, but credit where credit is due, souls don’t actually do anything of note and there is no evidence that objects, places, or concepts have any lack of souls… But yes, if you call someone an “it” then you are calling them a rock, and everyone hates rocks, because rocks are terrible. Or just work around it… “He told her that she couldn’t be his friend without also being his friend’s friend so she would have to ask his friend if she could be HIS friend if he wanted her to be his friend.”=”It was said that a friend to one must be a friend to all, so a request for friendship with one must be made to all.”… just avoiding pronouns completely is usually possible, if a huge hassle. And then there is “one” which can just be thrown in to replace pronouns with some success. But I would beg an attempt at just using the appropriate pronoun. Buddying around with Elim or lamenting his femininity is likely a male thing, so go for male. If she is presenting herself in public or formal Yinglet politics then she will probably have to present as female to avoid trouble…
Oh god, I completely missed both these responses. In my defense, I’ve been very busy recovering from burnout (still not done, in fact).
Val: I figured as much. I do not envy Kass this decision.
Guest: Firstly and as an aside, considering the depth of your response I feel bad just calling you “Guest” but it’s what I’ve got to work with. Anyway, I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. I know that’s a bit of a disappointing return to such a colossal verbal sally, but I don’t really have anything to add. I guess, otherwise, as a writer myself, it’s good to see spontaneous incisive thought in comments. It helps reassure me about the consideration I’ve put into my own work.
Oh boy… As resident trans girl I’m jealous, but this is far more of a sucky FTM dysphoria thing than a gloriously liberating MTF thing.
Noodle Kass is adorable though.
Yup; and the dysphoria from the sex change is actually pretty small compared to the change of species!
Yeah, a species change is much more radical, because it involves the whole body, not just a single aspect.
I’ll bet… Still though, I wonder if a trans friend would be helpful to Kass, as being able to understand that particular kind of pain could be incredibly useful to him.
Still, this is pretty far out of anyone’s league to be honest… Though perhaps not out of *everyone’s* league. Isher knows what it’s like to be seen as something other than she wants to be seen as, Elim provides a rock for him to cling to, Lopin knows what it’s like to be so deeply looked down on and Yannit… well, she genuinely cares for her new friends.
He just needs some time to coordinate himself. Figure out the best way to handle each individual part of his current state of being. Only then will he be able to find some peace.
you are not the only one who’s jealous of kass
(in every way)
I just binge-read this whole thing from the very beginning. What a world, and with interesting characters and surprisingly deep lore.
And man do I feel such a withdrawal for there not being more. After reading a hundred pages in two days, the thought of having to wait a week or more for just one more page is just painful. I guess I feel a lot like a yinglet without his oysters, or something.
As a question for the author, is there any plans for developing the main characters other than Kass? Like, we do occasionally get glimpses into the shared past of Elim and Kass, and especially these last few pages have really built the character of Elim, but we still barely know anything about Isher other than that she’s infatuated with Kass, and we know even less about Yannit.
So, without giving away too much of your plans for this story arc, is there going to be more Isher or Yannit in the near future?
Once again, I absolutely love this, and you have definitely earned a fan today. Keep up the great work!
All right! Glad you found this thing.
Yes, Kass is taking the spotlight at the moment, but each character has a lot going on, and will be getting more individual attention as the story goes on. Lotsa Isher, lotsa Yannit.
Great to have earned a fan; I intend top make sure the comic continues to earn the attention it’s getting!
I thank you for these reassuring words.
In the meantime, I should mention that I’ve also pledged a small amount of money to support this comic in the unlikely event that my enthusiasm alone does not pay the bills.
And I don’t usually just give away money like that. I don’t know what it is about this comic, but it truly is something exceptional and I’m passionately waiting for more.
I was about to post something very close to this. This is the kind of webcomic that you kinda wish you found after it was finished so you can get the whole story, which is the mark of all the best works of fiction.
This seems highly relevant to the first 2 panels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeN9z_urIfI
*discovers new skill*
*uses it to mess with best friend*
JUST BROS BEIN’ BROS
Level 5 yinglet achieved.
Quest: Destroy best friend’s mind.
Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope!
I’m waiting for Kass to be in the middle of a Report to the Boss man… suddenly just licking her eye without realizing it, and that weird moment of silence of “Did you really just do that?” kinda moment, before Kass freaks out over ‘eye juice’ xP
Mens insana in corpore peregrino
I imagine I’d probably be the opposite way around about the whole “Radically changed worldview” thing. I’d be super cool and into the new experience most of the time, trying to figure out what I can do with it, if there are any advantages, etc., but every once in a while (probably while trying to get something heavy off a high shelf) I’d just freak out about it.
I doubt anyone among us could truly feel anything but the five stages of grief – denial, bargaining, anger, depression, acceptance – if we suddenly and against our will found ourselves in a body that has absolutely nothing in common with what we used to be, and with no obviously way to undo the damage.
I mean, let’s recap: Kass’s handwriting has devolved into that of a child. Kass now has a face, an identity, he doesn’t recognize as his own. Kass hates his own voice. Kass will have a yinglet lisp for the rest of his life. Kass can’t control his feelings; rather his feelings control him. As a real punch to the gut, Kass’s life will probably be way shorter now. Oh, and of course even the genitals aren’t the same.
Given all that, I don’t think there’s a person in the world who wouldn’t act more or less like Kass. Personally, if I was in this situation, I think I would handle it much worse.
A tail can be a hazard… stepped on, pulled. Just one more thing to keep track of. Trust me……. 🙂
I’ve read through this comic twice now(the second time also reading the comments for little tidbits from the creator) and in the week since I started, I *just now* realized something: Yinglet fingers(and toes) are all two segments, like a human thumb. Yinglets *are “All Thumbs”*. And it took me a week to get that damn joke.
There’s more observations, hypotheses, questions and whatnot I’ll probably post later when I have time/energy, but for now I just wanna say thanks for making these goofy/cute rat-birds and an engrossing story to go with them.
Well, I for one feel better about myself now, knowing I’m not the only one here who got totally obsessed with this thing in the last week or so since I first discovered this.
Read several times already: check. Lorebeard growing at an alarming rate: also check.
I guess what I mean to say is that I know how you feel.
Never thought I’d be bitten by the fandom bug over a comic about rodent-theropod hybrids, but so I have, and it’s not going to get better any time soon.
Ooh, read it through in one go.
Enjoyed it immensely.
Good comic!
Actualy, t here are a large number of questions I would want to ask concerning Yinglet biology, the bathroom thing is just one. I have not given that one a great deal of thought, in part, this is a comic, often such things are passed over in comics, cause who generaly wants to see the chars hitting the head?
Second would be yinglet reproduction, I am guessing from the number of females that the females would need to have a reproductive cycle at lest every 2 months, if not every month, just to maintain and grow there population. Anything less and the race would be Dying do to lake of numbers. We know so far that it takes about two weeks from when thay mate to when thay produce eggs, (tentative info extracted from cominc). Still, there is no real information on how often thay cycle. I pose this question mostly based on the fact that you have basicly 5 females producing all the children for the entire enclave. Considering the rate at wich stupid is going to kill off the stupid yinglets, never mind issues as mutation caused deaths, accsident and other, thay would need a fairly high reproductive rate to keep the populatin up.
Another question, though less important, is triggers for cycles, most critters actualy do have triggers for when the reproductive cycle is triggered, though on earth a lot is acrtualy based on light cycles and temp. There are also many that can be triggered by food availability, aka, lots of good food, triggers the cycle, lack of good food tends to supress it.
I also have to wonder about the lifespan of the yinglets. I have heard ’40 years’ mentioned once or twice, but not in a way that I feel I can really count on as a lifespan. Worse, when you consider that in the current enviroment they live in, even humans would have shortened lifespans compaired to modern day earth.
Its allready been shown that thay have a pretty high metabolic rate, wich actualy would make them seem less inteligant, as all that energy would tend to make it difacult for them to focus on something for long. Such as Kess needing to run around the room in order to be able to cntinue to write out whats been happening to him.
Ahh I think I will shut up at this point and see what people say in responce.
A mix of basic and intelligent questions. I like that. Zhis is outrageously fun, zhis comic.
I WANT…..THIS TO BECOME AN ANIMATION…… or at least some kind of show 😛
I think it would deffinantly become popular for people that enjoy fantasy and comedy ^.^
or a book
so we have more to read ^w^
The last pannel confused me with all arms and legs. Untill I realized that the last two pannels are left and right switched. One pannel has kass circled in one direction and the other pannel has her circled in the opposite direction. Even changing direction of view and perspective it still remains the same as her tail end gives a distinct direction of the curl and is in full view in both images.
Omg I just love how the last two panels take Kass from zen-bend to limb-tangle-disco-freakout-fever.