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  1. Chip

    OH SHIT

    • BigNorseWolf

      Can’t start a new thread so attempting here…
      Put my 5 clams of Vizlet tried one male per female in an attempt to get a 50 50 balance between the yinglet sexes..

      • NobleCuriosity

        I’ll take that bet. Put my clams down on “One of Vizlet’s modernization efforts in general”; for a more specific bet, “Vizlet got humans to tutor her enclave (including at least some of the enclave females) in human trade skills, and the Val Salian government was somehow involved or at least approved.”

        I wrote an essay on why further below.

  2. Darian Stephens

    It’s not her FAULT, it’s the system that she has to work with being so dang stifling, and bad in the long run.
    Poor Vizlet, suffering at the clawed hands of the contemptable Central Enclaves.

    • faefox

      Don’t leap to defend her before we even know what happened

      • Sari Maxwell

        Nah, considering the fact that She’s been desperately trying to modernize yinglet civilization and receiving so much pushback by the central enclaves, I think Darian is correct here. I highly doubt Vislet did something heinous, and it’s probably something like encouraging the yinglet women to be independent rather than be part of the patriarchy harem.

        • Drako

          Whatever it was, I’m sure it had to do with taking away some of the power/control the Central Enclaves had.

  3. YingletKarri

    Ohh no!
    … is Zeska, isnit. Did te Matriarch ever stop tinkin about dis? She didn’t, did she.

    • NobleCuriosity

      (TLDR at end)

      I will bet hard that it is NOT Zeska, at least not directly. Narklet blames Zeska’s desertion on Zeska herself, as encouraged by Kattajak’s family favoritism for her (he says so when he talked about it with Kattajak and Poak in #229.). And yet his response to Kattajak also favoring Zally is just a lecture about the dangers, no threats about transferring Zally out or crippling the enclave.

      This is much bigger than Zeska, and much more directly Vizlet’s fault. In #368, Narklet says this enclave “violated some foundational tenets of the Great Society” and consequently the Elders removed many of their females, imposed sanctions, and then sent Narklet up to keep an eye out for any hint of it happening again.

      It’s almost certainly due to one of Vizlet’s modernization (#26) /human collaboration efforts (#178FG).

      I’m going to guess humans were directly involved–maybe Vizlet sent some of her girls out of the enclave to get trade lessons from humans,like the ones Vizlet got when she traveled, with assistance from the Val Salian government. That hits several alarm bells for the Elders (females routinely outside of direct enclave control, direct importation of human knowledge, strong diplomatic connections with a foreign state holding a sizable military–possibly even stronger diplomatic connections than to the central enclave) all at once while being something Vizlet might think she could get away with, since she herself still became a matriarch despite having previously traveled and learned some trade knowledge from humans. Then the Elders sent all the females who’d learned to rural enclaves, which Vizlet notes “hoard all their females” when Kassen first meets her in #prologue-36.

      Though…that feels a bit TOO serious for Vizlet to remain matriarch, even with Narklet watching. Maybe Viracroix offered, and she merely accepted instead of proposing it herself (or at least that’s what they told the Elders). Maybe a few boys got to learning stuff independently and that inspired Viracroix to do so. Maybe the humans came to the girls instead of the other way around. And I’m guessing Vizlet herself usually didn’t go, because she was too busy managing the enclave. That would be a bit less “wildly out of control matriarch->depose her” and more “enclave succumbed to human corruption attempts->expunge the influence, tighten leash and watch for further incident.”

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      TLDR;–I’m confident it’s due to one of Vizlet’s modernization/”globalization” efforts, not Zeska. I’m guessing it involved females learning from humans, with the blessing of the Val Salian government.

  4. Roast Goose

    Vizlet and her enclave have probably paid dearly for her attempts to modernise their civilisation. I imagine several patriarchs were not pleased with this. What they have is working, right? Why put work into something that will cause so much pai?

    But this runs on the assumption things will remain fine if they stay in their old ways. Vizlet has very good reason to believe this is not the case. She believes it’s worth the effort. But how much can she and others endure to make that happen? Is that even possible?

  5. Nikary Flare

    Oh, Vizlet… 🙁

  6. epic_null

    How much of this was a setup for Vampire Vizlet?

  7. Willl

    Lukeska… I am your mozher… *funny breazhing soundies*

    O_o

  8. Drako

    Time for Viz to come clean. LORE DROP! (:

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